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1956 КОНГРЕСС ИГР

GROUP PROCESSING: HOLD IT STILL, MAMA AND PAPA

ГРУППОВОЙ ПРОЦЕССИНГ: «УДЕРЖИТЕ В НЕПОДВИЖНОСТИ МАМУ И ПАПУ» (ПРОДОЛЖЕНИЕ)

A lecture and Group Processing demonstration given on 2 September 1956
Сессия группового процессинга, проведенная 2 сентября 1956 года

We put this lady and this gentleman up here *[Editor's Note: A large, lifelike dummy of a man and a woman were each placed on a table at the front of the room for the Group Processing.] because we didn't have enough pillars.

Now, I'd like to introduce to you on my right, at probably 50 — 75 pounds, Mama.

All right. Now, let's look over here.

Female voice: Okay, Mama.

Хорошо. Посмотрите вот сюда.

And over here, on my left, the contender — Papa.

Now, if any of you good people are unable to see both Mama and Papa, there's lots of chairs at the back; let's start pulling them forward and squaring yourselves around so that you can see both these notable people.

These two good people by the way, were mocked up whole cloth by the HCA students. I want to thank them right now for this good job done.

Audience: Okay. All right.

This just shows you that after somebody gets through a modern HCA Course, he can really mock up.

Аудитория: Да. Хорошо.

You realize — you realize now, some intuition must have told you that we were going to have some Group Processing.

Audience: Really?

Now, is there anybody — is there anybody doesn't want any Group Processing? There's somebody at the back doesn't want any Group Processing — that's real good. There's an empty chair up here.

Now, somewhere or another you've gotten the idea that that's Mama. That's women!

Now, Group Processing is an activity participated in by the group and directed by the Group Auditor.

Темилиинымобразомвыпришлик убеждению, что это мама. Это женщины!

Group Processing came in several years ago and was very, very successful at the time it did. It's been very successful since. It's an oddity that group instruction — in the same way that you receive group instruction on the first night PE Course — which by the way was all I guess there was to the PE Course there, unless of course — oh, it's on again tonight. I don't lecture tonight, do I?

Audience: Yes!

Well, it's a democratic world. I actually do have to give some of those lectures that are on the program. We have covered one to date.

And somehow – somehow you have gotten the idea that's Papa. Nah-uh-uh- men! Men.

Anyway, Group Processing was very successful and it's a strange thing, however, that with the processes we were using a year ago, that group instruction actually did more for IQ and for the general state of case than processing. But that was a year ago.

И тем или иным образом вы пришли к убеждению, что это папа. Не-а – мужчины! Мужчины.

Now, if we can do as much for a case as we can do under group instruction today using the type of instruction more or less that you saw the first night here, what would happen if we really developed some group processes and a Group Auditor procedure? Hm? What would happen?

Well, there actually exists today a Group Auditor procedure. There exists a sort of a regimen of what you do and what you don't do and one of the things you don't do is to keep changing commands on the preclears. You attempt to run things somewhat flat. At least take the kick off of them for the group.

Now, Group Auditing with our modern processes can be terrifically successful. Can also be terribly disastrous. I hate to have to say that but there have been a very, very great many people entirely changed by Group Processing.

All right. Now, look at her – look at her.

Now Group Processing, of course, cannot and never will supplant individual processing. But as individual processing moves forward in its results, Group Processing moves up — lagging a bit, of course — considerably — but Group Processing is still quite effective.

Ну хорошо. Посмотрите на нее... посмотрите на нее.

Now, what process do you suppose you could possibly run with these two nice dummies in the front of the room? Hm?

Well, you could run that but you notice here you have some mass. Is that some mass? Let's look at Mama. Now, you realize anybody such as yourself that's had several hundred Mamas up and down the track one way or the other, actually — you don't need to get too specific about mothers. Mothers are simply a subject. They're very, very nice things to have around sometimes. Sometimes mothers aren't very nice to have around. I mean it's just one of those things. Sometimes a matter of an opinion.

However, I have had a preclear who had told me what an awful mother he had, suddenly discover that she wasn't such a bad old girl after all. And I have had a preclear that was saying, "Oh, I had the dearest mother in the world," suddenly find out that she had been made, to say the least, in a careless moment.

She epitomizes. She does. She does.

Boy, you're slow!

She epitomizes. She does!

Yeah, that's the way it is.

Онаолицетворяетвсехженщин.Правда. Правда. Она их олицетворяет. Правда!

Well anyhow, fathers of course — fathers of course are another subject — another subject entirely. In fact they're another object. And fathers are of course — well, fathers. And it's very, very hard to generalize on fathers because they all act so much like fathers most of the time. Except those that refuse to be fathers.

There's many a little baby has spent most of his time trying to convince Papa that Papa was a Papa. You'd be surprised how much concentration some children have put into that. But both of them, of course, have had some role in the formation of the person.

It's an odd thing, isn't it, that a broken home where father or mother is amiss or gone produces in the main the bulk of unsettled people.

Itisn'tgenerallyknown,buthe epitomizes too.

In other words, you take somebody down here in the juvenile delinquency ward, something like that; you find out normally he comes from a broken home. That's quite peculiar. Well, you go up in the sacristy and you'll find out that the priests up there, many of them, have come from a broken home. And you go and look over famous authors and so on and you'll find out a lot of those came from a broken home.

И хотя мало кто об этом знает, но он олицетворяет всех мужчин.

You look over judges, magistrates and police officers and you'll find out many of them came from a broken home. In other words we see that a broken home plays a very significant role and being well aware of this, why don't we just group audit a little bit here on broken homes, huh?

Not that you have one — not that you have one, but I am sure unless you sprang full armed from the brain of your auditor, you had a mother. Right?

Audience: Right.

All right. Now, look at her.

You have some recollection of this. And some of you have had a father. Is that right? That's correct, isn't it?

Ну хорошо. Теперь посмотрите на нее.

Audience: Yeah.

All right. In view of that fact, do you suppose that you could see in this charming lady here some vestige of some mother you may or may not have had at some time or other?

Audience: Yes. No.

Audience: Okay. Yeah.

You might also see in her somebody else's mother such as the preclear's. Got that?

Аудитория: Ага. Ладно.

In other words this symbol we have — although it doesn't have mobility at the moment — is nevertheless a symbol. You see that the symbol must have had mobility, however, because it appeared there. I don't think it was there during the lecture.

And over here — over here we have Papa and I think we can see in Papa some of the Papas that you might have been associated with, right? Hm? How about that?

Audience: Yeah.

That's women – women. Got that?

You can do that?

Это женщины... женщины. Это ясно?

Audience: Yeah.

Well, now let's look at Mama again. Let's look at Mama again and see in her the symbol of womanhood.

And then let's look at Papa again and see in him the symbol of man-hood.

Audience: Yeah.

Now, these are very charming people. I know, I talked to them for hours and they were very obedient. They don't originate well but do you suppose Mama over here could receive a communication in any way?

Аудитория: Ага.

Audience: Yeah.

Oh, you do think so. All right. That's good.

Now, do you suppose Papa could receive a communication?

That's all the dames you ever knew, see?

Audience: Yeah.

Это все дамы, которых вы когда-либо знали, понимаете?

Well now, can you get the idea more or less that that figure of Mama is there?

Audience: Yes.

All right.

Audience: Yeah.

Can you get the idea that the figure of Papa is there?

Аудитория: Ага.

Audience: Yeah.

All right. That's fine.

Now, we're going to run a process which is a very, very simple process and is run in exactly the same way that we ran our process yesterday on the posts. Okay?

Got that now? Women?

Audience: Yes.

Теперь понятно? Женщины.

You don't have to acknowledge the execution of this at all. You just do it as best you can. Anything that happens is of course the responsibility of the seminar leader and neither mine nor yours, okay?

Audience: Okay.

All right. Now, let's once more look at Mama — charming figure. And now, let's look at Papa. All right.

Audience: Yeah. Okay.

Now, let's look at Mama and hold her still.

Аудитория: Ага. Да.

All right. That's fine, that's fine.

Now, let's look at Papa. Now, you hold Papa still. You hold Papa still. You making it?

Audience: Yeah.

All the dames you ever knew. Got that?

All right. All right. That's pretty good. That's pretty good. You having difficulty doing this?

Все дамы, которых вы когда-либо знали. Это

Audience: No.

Huh?

Audience: No.

All right.

Now, once more look at Mama and you hold Mama still.

ясно?

All right.

How are you getting along with that, huh?

Audience: Fine.

Audience: Yeah.

Oh, you find a little more success in that this time?

Аудитория: Ага.

Audience: Yes. No.

No — yes, so on, so on?

Well, I'll tell you, the task of holding these still of course is quite — is quite considerable because you aren't using enough force.

And over here, this other dummy – this other sad sack, that's all the men you ever knew, right?

Now, I want you to use more force than you're using. I'm not joking now. And there's Papa and I want you to hold Papa still.

А вот этот, второй болван... этот недотепа – это все мужчины, которых вы когда-либо знали, так?

Is he really getting quiet?

Audience: Yeah.

Hm? All right. That's good, that's good. That's fine.

Audience: Yeah. Right.

Is — anybody hasn't had a win yet? All right.

Аудитория: Ага. Так.

Is anybody still wondering why we're doing this because they're already still? Well, if that's the case, why, you'd have missed the point. The point is you — you see it's still because — maybe because of gravity and a whole lot of other things — but you hold it still. You be the sole agent that's holding that still. All right.

Now, let's look at Mama and you hold Mama still.

All right. That's fine. That's fine.

See, he's darn near a group. Alright, you got him – you got him reidentified now – you got him placed? You got him placed?

If you're still getting a wobble or if you're still finding that there isn't anything to it, try a little harder.

Видите, он очень близко к группе. Вы... вы заново установили его идентность... вы установили его местоположение? Вы установили его местоположение?

And there's Papa — there's Papa there — now, that's Papa, you under-stand? That isn't our Papa, that's your Papa. Okay? Your Papa. Now, you hold Papa still.

All right.

You getting Papa a little stiller? You kind of getting your hands on him?

Audience: Yeah.

Audience: Yes.

Аудитория: Ага.

Huh?

Audience: Yeah.

Ah, you've been — you've been thinking I've been joking. You think I've been joking when I said use some force. I want you to, really. I want you to hold him still. Grrr-grrr-grr-grrr-grrrr. Got it? You know?

You girls have got him placed?

Audience: Yeah.

Вы,девушки,установилиего местоположение?

Now, if you find out you can't reach up and put your theta paws on these relatives of yours, why you just try a little bit harder. Don't go sitting back and say, "It's all done with postulates anyhow."

Here's the way I want you to hold her still, see — crunch! Cruhh-ruhh!

Now, you're going to find out how still something can get before you're through with this. Now, if you think anything else is connected with this figure, that is in motion, hold it still, too.

Audience: Yeah.

Now, there's Mama, your Mama, your dear Mama, your dear sweet Mama. The Mama, the pal of your cradle days. There she is. Now, you hold Mama still.

Аудитория: Ага.

Okay, okay. You're getting a little more successful, aren't you? Huh? Now, is somebody still thinking very foolishly this is done with postulates? Oh, you got the idea now?

I want you to hold, get the command, hold!

All right. Now, there's Papa, the pal, the fellow that used to give you a dollar every time you asked for it. The fellow who loaned you his car any-time, gave you his little black address book — there he is, your pal, Papa. Your Papa. Now, you hold Papa still.

Okay. Now, look at her – look at her now.

All right.

Хорошо.Теперьпосмотритенанее... посмотрите теперь на нее.

How you doing now? Huh?

Audience: All right.

You sort of getting the idea of holding Papa still?

Audience: Yeah.

Audience: Yeah.

Аудитория: Ага.

You know, not — well, there he is, he's still.

Now, you hold Papa still, you know, putting that postulate — "Well, hold still." Now, hold him still, hold him still. I don't care if you're clear at the back of the room. Get your theta paws on these characters now.

Now, you hold — see Mama there? All right. Now, you hold Mama still. All right. That's good.

That's women. Is that women?

You getting a little more beef into it now?

Это женщины. Это женщины?

Audience: Yeah.

Huh? You getting a little more forte main — strength? Hm?

The reason I want you to do that is parents [children] very seldom man-handle their mothers or fathers — very seldom beat them up — very seldom touch them. Isn't that kind of obvious? Huh?

Audience: Yes.

Well now, there's Papa there — there's Papa. Now, you hold Papa still! And I mean still.

Аудитория: Да.

All right.

How's that? Hm?

Audience: All right.

That women – that really is?

Anybody getting better at this?

Это женщины... на самом деле?

Audience: Yeah.

Getting a little better at it? Who's getting worse at it? All right.

Now, look at Mama, your Mama, the one that used to feed you skim milk — there she is; now you hold Mama still.

Audience: Yes.

All right. How's that?

Аудитория: Да.

Audience: Okay.

Now, you getting so you get a little more force in it?

Audience: Yeah.

Dames?

Can you hold her a little stiller?

Леди?

Audience: Yeah.

Huh? Getting so you can hold the whole thing still? You getting so you can use more force on it?

Audience: Yeah.

Audience: Yeah.

How about you guys there in the back? You getting so you can get a little more force on it, huh? You can? All right. That's quite a long range there but I'm sure you can do it.

Аудитория: Ага.

Now, you look at Papa — handsome dog — there he is, the fellow who used to get all of Mama's attention. Now, all right. You got him there?

Audience: Yeah.

All right. Now, you hold Papa still!

Skoits?

All right. How's that? Hm? You getting better at it? Can you put more force in it?

Юбки?

Audience: Yeah.

You getting so you can really connect there better? All right.

Now, how are you doing on pretending it is Papa or is Mama, huh?

Audience: Skoits.

Audience: All right.

Аудитория: Юбки.

Oh, you're doing all right at that, huh?

Audience: Yeah.

All right.

Broads?

Now, look at Mama. Now, remember, get over this old kick of doing it with a postulate. Let's get some force in there and you hold Mama still. All right. All right. Okay.

Бабы?

Does anybody still think there's a wind blowing her dress around?

Audience: No, no.

All right. Now — good.

Audience: Yeah.

Look at Papa, dear old Papa that always got the first crack at the funny page and the most comfortable chair — the best cut of meat at dinner. Look at him. Got him there?

Аудитория: Ага.

Audience: Yeah.

You got him for sure?

Audience: Yes.

All right.

You got that?

Now, you hold Papa still.

Вы это поняли?

Okay. How's that? Hm?

Audience: Fine. Good.

Let me ask you this question as we go by this point. Now, are you able to use more force than you did before?

Audience: Yeah.

Audience: Yes.

Аудитория: Ага.

All right. Now, let's see if you can use even more force than you have been using and you hold — look at Mama now, look at Mama. All right. Now, you hold Mama still!

Okay. How's that? Hm?

Audience: Fine. Mama's easier to hold.

And noble womanhood.

Mama's easier to hold now, huh? Now, there's — you finding it easier to use force on this?

И благородное дамское сословие.

Audience: Yes.

All right. Now, I want you to use lots of force on it; I want you to use more than you've been using and I want you to introduce the idea of an absolute into this — an absolute stillness.

Now, some of you've been arguing around and saying well, "The worth — the world is going around and we're going in various directions. There's molecules in that mass and all of that sort of thing and aside from this, why, we will hold those still." Now, that's true, isn't it? Some of you been doing that. Huh?

All right. Look at him.

Well all right now, we want an absolute entered into this and I want you to hold all of those items absolutely still, too. You got it? Any molecules that you happen to think of, any turn of Earth — anything that's been bothering you about holding this thing absolutely still, you hold that still, too. You got that?

Ну хорошо. Посмотрите на него.

Audience: Yeah.

Huh? All right.

We're going to introduce the idea of an absolute here.

Audience: Yeah.

Now, look at Papa. Look at Papa. Now, you hold Papa still!

Аудитория: Ага.

Okay. How's that?

Audience: Good.

Hm? Is that better? That better? Now, come on now, let's not dog off now, let's do this up as a good job.

Masculinity. Virility. Strength. Brutality. Ignorance. And utterly wrong.

Now, are you finding out that there's a stillness that occurs sometimes just for an instant?

Мужские качества. Мужественность. Сила. Жестокость. Невежество. И абсолютная неправота.

Audience: Yeah.

Well, you've held it still haven't you?

Audience: Yes.

That's guys.

You've won, haven't you?

Это мужики.

Audience: Yeah.

Isn't that a little bit of a feeling of relief when you do that — ping! It's absolutely still, huh? Just an instant of stillness. Well now, if you haven't been getting too still, you work for that instant of stillness and you'll find it'll lengthen. Got it?

Audience: Yeah.

Audience: Yeah.

All right. Now, look at Mama — look at Mama. Look at Mama there. Good. Now, you hold Mama still.

Аудитория: Ага.

Okay. How you doing?

Audience: Good. Fine.

Getting any wins?

Fellows.

Audience: Yes.

Парни.

All right. All right.

Now, get the idea of force in this now. Get the idea of, "Hold them still with force," actually making contact with them, clamping them down right where they are.

Look at Papa. Look at Papa. Now, you hold Papa still.

Audience: Yeah.

All right. How's that?

Аудитория: Ага.

Audience: Good.

Are you getting better at this?

Audience: Yeah.

Chaps.

Huh? You really getting better at this now, huh? You mean some of you are having some ridges blow or something? Aw, I didn't mean for that to happen. It's not supposed to have any effect on you. You have the effect on the dummy.

Ребята.

Now look, look at Mama. Is she there?

Audience: Yeah.

Look at her. All right.

Audience: Yeah.

Now, you hold Mama still.

Аудитория: Ага.

All right. How are you doing?

Audience: Fine. Okay.

Doing better?

Pals.

Audience: Yeah.

Кореша.

Now, can you use more force than you did?

Audience: Yeah.

Huh? Are you the one that's using the force now?

Audience: Yeah.

Audience: Yeah.

Аудитория: Ага.

All right.

Now, look at Papa, look at Papa. Now, you hold Papa still.

Okay. How is that? Hm? Are you getting better at it or worse?

Buddies.

Audience: Better.

Пацаны.

Oh, you're getting a little better at it, huh?

Audience: Yeah.

A lot better?

Audience: Yeah.

Audience: Yes. No.

Аудитория: Ага.

No. Just a little better?

Audience: Yeah.

All right. Is anything wrong? Anybody feel like he's going mad? Any feel — body feel like that? Huh? Anybody feel real restless?

Rats.

Audience: Yeah.

Мерзавцы.

You feel real restless, huh?

Audience: Yeah.

Hey, listen. What did I tell you? I want you to hold this still — not your Mama back on the track but your Mama right here. Now, if you feel restless, you're holding the wrong Mama. This is the one we want to hold, okay?

You got them?

Now, let's just establish this Mama again. Is this Mama here?

Вы их нашли?

Audience: Yeah.

Has this Mama got a little mass?

Audience: Yeah.

Audience: Yeah.

Has this Mama got some mass?

Аудитория: Ага.

Audience: Yeah.

Well all right. Is that Mama standing there?

Audience: Yeah.

All right. That's real good. That's real good. Do you know that there are several-several people present that look much more alive than he does but I ask you to stretch your imagination just to the degree – but can you grant him a little beingness?

Well all right. It does exist then?

Отлично. Очень хорошо. Очень хорошо. Знаете ли вы, что есть некоторые... некоторые из присутствующих выглядят куда более живыми, чем он, но я попросил бы вас немного напрячь воображение... вы можете предоставить ему немного бытийности?

Audience: Yeah.

You can see it?

Audience: Yes.

Well all right. All right.

Audience: Yeah.

Now, you hold Mama still.

Аудитория: Ага.

All right. That's a little better now, isn't it?

Audience: Yeah.

Huh? Is that a little better? Easier to do it that way?

He needs it.

Audience: Yeah.

Ему это нужно.

All right. All right.

Now, just look at Papa again. Look at Papa. Got Papa there?

Audience: Yeah.

All right. Now, look at her.

Is Papa standing there?

Ну хорошо. Теперь посмотрите на нее.

Audience: Yeah.

Now, look actually, factually, is that there?

Audience: Yeah.

Audience: Yeah.

That right there?

Аудитория: Ага.

Audience: Yes.

That is there?

Audience: Yes.

Look at him.

Now, this is what you're holding still — not something back on the track. I want you to use force to hold this still. Force, that's right. All right. Got it now?

Посмотрите на него.

Audience: Yeah.

Now, you hold Papa still.

Okay. How's that, huh?

Audience: Yeah.

Audience: Okay, fine.

Аудитория: Ага.

Now, you still feel as restless as you did or more so? Be honest.

Audience: No.

You still feel as restless?

Good. All right. Now, what we're going to do here is just a little bit different than we've been doing before, just a little bit different. What we're going to do is easier. Is that better?

Audience: No.

Хорошо. Отлично. Так вот, то, что мы собираемся здесь делать, совсем чуть-чуть отличается от того, что мы делали раньше... совсем чуть-чуть отличается. Мы собираемся использовать более легкий процесс. Вам это больше нравится?

Huh? Feel a little better? Well now, let's establish this real good. Establish Mama real good — real — very well here. Establish her very well. What year is this?

Audience: Nineteen fifty-six.

That got it.

Audience: Yeah.

Well — what year is this?

Аудитория: Ага.

Audience: Nineteen fifty-six.

All right. You know that?

Audience: Yeah.

I feel some people don't quite believe me. Nevertheless, it's true and we're going to do this because it's a bigger subject that we're covering. Got that?

You know that.

Мне кажется, некоторые не очень-то верят мне. Тем не менее это правда. Мы собираемся это сделать, потому что таким образом мы охватим более широкую тему, чем раньше. Ясно?

Where are you sitting?

Audience: Here.

Where am I sitting?

Audience: Yeah.

Audience: There.

Аудитория: Ага.

All right. That's fine. That's fine.

It's kind of a tough row to hoe, isn't it?

Audience: Yeah.

All right. And I'm going to ask you – I'm going to ask you to look at one of these and then I'm going to ask you to hold her still. Is that okay? And keep her from going away. Complicated, isn't it?

All right.

Хорошо. И я собираюсь попросить вас... я собираюсь попросить вас посмотреть на одну из этих фигур, а потом я собираюсь попросить вас удержать ее в неподвижности. Вы не возражаете? И удержать ее от удаления. Это сложно, да?

Now, there's Mama right there. Look at Mama.

Audience: Okay.

Got her?

Audience: Yeah.

Audience: Yeah.

Аудитория: Ага.

All right. Now, you hold Mama still.

You doing it?

Audience: No.

I'm going to ask you to do two things at once, so to speak. Would you rather have the command «Keep her from going away and hold her still»? Would you rather have the command that way?

I'll give you a little tip. If you keep losing at this you're going to be in horrible shape very shortly, I assure you.

Я собираюсь попросить вас сделать две вещи одновременно, если можно так выразиться. Вы предпочли бы команду «Удержите ее от удаления и удержите ее в неподвижности»? Вы предпочли бы, чтобы команда звучала таким образом?

Now, look, tell you what you do. You kind of say, "There she is," you know, and you say, "Crunch," you know, and she's still just for a split instant. You're sure she is, see. "Crunch," you know. Ghk! And then she goes wobble-wobble-wobble. We don't care about that. Just as long as she's still just pop! Got that? Huh? All right. That's all we want. That's all we want.

Now, let's look at her again and let's just try that. Let's just try for an instantaneous stillness if you're having any difficulty.

Now, did you make it this time?

Audience: No.

Audience: Yes.

Аудитория: Нет.

Is anybody — hasn't made it yet? All right. Okay, okay. You did it that time, huh?

Audience: Yeah.

I don't care how much force you have to use or what you have to put up around them or how hard you have to scrunch them — let's make it. All right. Now, look at Papa, look at Papa. Is Papa there?

Audience: Yes.

No? «Keep her still and keep her from going away» is all right with you, huh?

Got Papa?

Нет?«Удержитееевнеподвижностии удержите ее от удаления» – такая команда вас устраивает, да?

Audience: Yes.

All right. Now, if only for an instant or a longer time, you hold Papa still. All right. How is that?

Audience: Fine.

Audience: Yeah.

Okay.

Аудитория: Ага.

Is anybody still losing? Is anybody winning now more consistently?

Audience: Yeah.

You winning real consistently now?

All right, and then I'll ask you to look at him and I will say – I will say, «All right, now, hold him still and keep him from going away.» How's that?

Audience: Yeah.

Хорошо, и потом я попрошу вас посмотреть на него, и я скажу... я скажу: «Хорошо, теперь удержите его в неподвижности и удержите его от удаления». Как вам это?

Is it better?

Audience: Yeah.

You really doing better now?

Audience: Okay.

Audience: Yeah.

Аудитория: Хорошо.

Huh? All right.

If you can get her still with whatever force just for an instant — why, see if you can get her still for just a little bit longer and if you can finally relax down to the level of a lightning bolt to hold her still, that's okay. All right?

Go on, look at Mama, look at Mama now. Look at Mama. Got her?

All right? Okay. Are you all set?

Now, you hold Mama still.

Ладно? Хорошо. Вы готовы?

Okay. How's that?

Audience: Fine.

You getting winnier about this, huh?

Audience: Yeah.

Audience: Yes.

Аудитория: Ага.

Well okay, all right. That's fine.

Now, look at Papa, look at Papa — anybody losing badly on Papa still? Hm? All right. Look at Papa there — use force but do it more absolutely. You hold Papa still!

All right. How's that? Hm?

We're ready to begin? Okay. You got an auditor?

Audience: All right.

Мы готовы начать? Хорошо. У вас есть одитор?

Oh, you're winning more and more and more?

Audience: Yeah.

You are, huh? Well, all right. All right. All right.

Audience: Yeah.

Let's look at Mama again — we're going to run this about two more times and then we're going to wind it up. Is that all right with you?

Аудитория: Ага.

Audience: Yeah.

All right. All right. Oh, we'll get another hour later.

All right. You look at — look at Mama there. Now, you hold Mama still! All right. How is that?

All right. Now, look at her.

Audience: Fine.

Хорошо. Теперь посмотрите на нее.

Get a win?

Audience: Yeah.

Has she for anybody jumped off the table and run around it a couple of times and sprung back up on it again or anything like that? Huh? Now, tell me — has she done that? Huh? Has she wiggled a little bit to some people?

Audience: Okay, yeah.

Audience: Yeah.

Аудитория: Ага, хорошо.

Well, you're supposed to hold her still.

All right. Look at Papa. All right. Now, you hold Papa still.

Okay. How's that?

Okay. Hold her still and keep her from going away.

Audience: All right. Great.

Хорошо. Удержите ее в неподвижности и удержите ее от удаления.

All right. It's going to be just one more command here. Look at Mama, look at her. Establish her. What year is it?

Audience: Nineteen fifty-six.

All right. Now, look at her real carefully. She is there.

Okay. All right. It is easier, isn't it?

Audience: Yeah.

Хорошо. Отлично. Это легче делать, да?

All right. Now, you hold Mama still.

How's that?

Audience: Very good.

Audience: Yeah.

Did you get a win?

Аудитория: Ага.

Audience: Yeah.

We quitting on a win?

Audience: Yeah.

All right. Now, look at him.

Is anybody quitting on a lose? No? All right. All right. All right. All right. Just look at Mama.

Хорошо. Теперь посмотрите на него.

Audience: Okay.

Good. Good. Look at Papa.

Audience: Okay.

Now, hold him still and keep him from going away.

Good. Good. Look at Mama.

Теперь удержите его в неподвижности и удержите его от удаления.

Audience: Okay.

Good. Good. Look at Papa.

Audience: Okay.

All right. You winning already?

Good. Good. All right. How are you?

Хорошо. У вас уже есть победы?

Audience: Fine.

All right. Where's the floor?

Where am I?

Audience: Yeah.

Audience: Right there.

Аудитория: Ага.

Good. Where's the rest of you?

Audience: Right here.

All right. Good. Where are you?

Well all right. Good. Now, let's look at her.

Audience: Here.

Нухорошо.Отлично.Теперьдавайте посмотрим на нее.

Good. Where's the right-hand wall?

Audience: There.

Good. Where's the left-hand wall?

Now, hold her still and keep her from going away.

Audience: There.

Теперь удержитееевнеподвижностии

Good. Where's the back of the room?

удержите ее от удаления.

Audience: There.

Good. Where's the ceiling?

Audience: There.

Good. Where's the floor?

All right. How's that?

Good. All right.

Хорошо. Ну как?

Now, as difficult as it is, I know, to leave this fascinating pastime, I really factually believe that we ought to have a break, don't you?

Audience: Yes.

All right.

Audience: Fine.

You've been very, very good preclears and I will see you again at five minutes past four.

Аудитория: Отлично. It's easier to do now, huh? Сейчас это легче делать, а? Audience: Yeah. Аудитория: Ага. All right. Now, look at him. Хорошо. Теперь посмотрите на него. Now, hold him still and keep him from going away. Теперь удержите его в неподвижности и удержите его от удаления. Okay. That's good. That's good. Now, look at her. Remember this is women. This is women now. Отлично. Хорошо. Хорошо. Теперь посмотрите на нее. Помните, что это женщины. Сейчас это женщины. Now, hold her still and keep her from going away. Теперь удержитееевнеподвижностии удержите ее от удаления. All right. How's that? Хорошо. Ну как? Audience: Fine. Аудитория: Отлично. Getting some wins? Есть какие-то победы? Audience: Yeah. Аудитория: Ага. All right. You'll have a lot more before it's over now. Not having any real difficulty, huh? Хорошо. У вас будет еще много побед, прежде чем мы закончим с этим. У вас нет никаких серьезных трудностей, так? Audience: No. Аудитория: Так. All right. Do you find you have to hold them sti – keep them from going away and then hold them still? Хорошо. Вы чувствуете, что вам приходится удерживать их в не... удерживать их от удаления, а потом удерживать их в неподвижности? Audience: No. Аудитория: Нет. No? You do them both at the same time? Нет?Вывыполняетеобадействия одновременно? Audience: Yes. Аудитория: Да. All right. All right. Хорошо. Хорошо. Is it getting more solid when you do that? Well, you see if it gets more solid when you do that. By the way, some of you have a bad idea of solidity. You think something is solid if it's simply solid. There's a part of the star dumbbell of Sirius, one teaspoonful of which on Earth would weigh one ton. And that's light compared to how solid I want you to be able to get these things. Эти объекты становятся более плотными, когда вы это делаете? Ну, посмотрите, становятся ли они более плотными, когда вы это делаете. Между прочим, у некоторых из вас неправильное представление о плотности. Вы думаете, что что-то плотное, если оно просто плотное. Есть звезда, спутник Сириуса, и одна чайная ложка вещества этой звезды на Земле весила бы тонну. И это еще небольшая плотность в сравнении с той плотностью, которой вы должны быть способны наделять эти объекты. All right. Now, you look at him. Now, look at him. Хорошо.Теперьвыпосмотритенанего. Теперь посмотрите на него. Hold him still and keep him from going away. Удержите его в неподвижности и удержите его от удаления. All right. All right. How's that? Хорошо. Хорошо. Ну как? Audience: Fine. Аудитория: Отлично. You winning better? У вас еще больше побед? Audience: Yeah. Аудитория: Ага. All right. Now, look at her. Хорошо. Теперь посмотрите на нее. Now, you hold her still and keep her from going away. Теперь вы удержите ее в неподвижности и удержите ее от удаления. All right. All right. That's fine. That's fine. Хорошо. Хорошо. Прекрасно. Прекрасно. You winning real good? У вас много побед? Audience: Yeah. Аудитория: Ага. Okay. Okay. Now, remember to use force. Хорошо. Хорошо. Помните о том, что вы должны использовать силу. Audience: Okay. Аудитория: Хорошо. I want you to use force. Я хочу, чтобы вы использовали силу. Look at him. Got him? Посмотрите на него. Видите его? Audience: Yeah. Аудитория: Ага. All right. Now, you hold him still and keep him from going away. Хорошо.Теперьвыудержитеегов неподвижности и удержите его от удаления. All right. All right. How's that? Хорошо. Хорошо. Ну как? Audience: Okay. Аудитория: Хорошо. Getting better? Получается лучше? Audience: Yeah. Аудитория: Ага. Getting a lot better? Получается намного лучше? Audience: Yeah. Аудитория: Ага. The first hour running out a little bit too? То, что вы проходили на первом часе, тоже в какой-то мере стирается? Audience: Yes. Аудитория: Да. All right. Now, remember – use all the force you want to, I want you to use force on this. Don't want you to just sit back with a little postulate and do it. Now, let's use force. Хорошо. Так вот, помните: вы должны использовать столько силы, сколько вам угодно; я хочу, чтобы вы здесь использовали силу. Я не хочу, чтобы вы расслаблялись и пытались сделать это просто с помощью небольшого постулата. Сейчас давайте использовать силу. Look at her. Now, hold her still and keep her from going away. Посмотрите на нее. Теперь удержите ее в неподвижности и удержите ее от удаления. Okay. How's that? Хорошо. Ну как? Audience: All right. Аудитория: Нормально. All right. Getting better at it? Хорошо. Сейчас получается лучше? Audience: Yeah. Аудитория: Ага. Getting any ridges moving around in front of your face or anything like that? Перед вашим лицом перемещаются какие-то риджи или что-то с этом роде? Audience: Yeah. Аудитория: Ага. Hm? All right. А? Хорошо. Now remember, use force. And we want this «keep her and keep him from going away» to be pretty absolute, you know. And we want that stillness to be stiller than still ever was. Got the idea? Так вот, помните, что вам нужно использовать силу. Мы хотим, чтобы это «удержите ее и удержите его от удаления» приближалось к абсолюту, понимаете? И мы хотим, чтобы эта неподвижность была неподвижнее, чем какая бы то ни было прежняя неподвижность. Вы поняли идею? Audience: Hm-mm. Аудитория: Угу. All right. Look at him. Хорошо. Посмотрите на него. Now, hold him still and keep him from going away. Теперь удержите его в неподвижности и удержите его от удаления. All right. How's that doing now, huh? Хорошо. Как это идет сейчас, а? Audience: Okay. Аудитория: Хорошо. Are you getting much better at it? У вас сейчас получается гораздо лучше? Audience: Yeah. Аудитория: Ага. All right. Now, let's establish this critter over here again. Хорошо. Теперь давайте снова установим существование этого создания. Look at her. Look at her. Got her? Посмотрите на нее. Посмотрите на нее. Нашли ее? Audience: Yeah. Аудитория: Ага. She there? Она там? Audience: Yeah. Аудитория: Ага. She's women. Okay? Она – это женщины. Да? Audience: Yeah. Аудитория: Ага. That's women. Dames. Ladies. Ladies. Это женщины. Дамы. Леди. Леди. And noble womanhood. You got it now? И благородное дамское сословие. Это вам ясно? Audience: Yeah. Аудитория: Ага. All right. Look at her. Now, hold her still Хорошо. Посмотрите на нее. Теперь удержите and keep her from going away. еевнеподвижностииудержитеееот удаления. All right. How's that? Хорошо. Ну как? Audience: Okay. Аудитория: Хорошо. Getting even better? Получается еще лучше? Audience: Yeah. Аудитория: Ага. Getting smoother at it? Получается легче? Audience: Yeah. Аудитория: Ага. You having a lot less trouble than you did in the first hour? У вас гораздо меньше трудностей, чем на предыдущем часе? Audience: Yeah. Аудитория: Ага. Huh? Well, you know she's just any woman now, any woman. Да? Вы знаете, что сейчас она – просто любая женщина, любая женщина. All right. Now, let's look at him. This is a guy, a fellow, a noble and virtuous sire. Хорошо. Теперь давайте посмотрим на него. Это парень, малый, это честный и благородный господин. Man. He's men, you gals. Men. Got him? Мужчина. Он мужчина – слышите, девчонки? Мужчина. Нашли его? All right. Хорошо. Look at him. Now, you hold him still and keep him from going away. Посмотрите на него. Теперь вы удержите его в неподвижности и удержите его от удаления. All right. How's that? Хорошо. Ну как? Audience: All right. Fine. Аудитория: Хорошо. Нормально. All right. Now, look at her. Look at her. Хорошо.Теперьпосмотритенанее. Посмотрите на нее. Look at her. Посмотрите на нее. Now, I want to call something to your attention. There's a lot more body there than you've been looking at. А сейчас я хочу обратить ваше внимание кое на что. То, на что вы до сих пор смотрели, – это еще далеко не все. Заметьте, что у нее есть Notice she has hands. She has feet. She has a head. Got it? руки. У нее есть ноги. У нее есть голова. Ясно? Audience: Yeah. Аудитория: Ага. All right. Look at her. Now, you hold her still and keep her from going away. Хорошо. Посмотрите на нее. Теперь вы удержите ее в неподвижности и удержите ее от удаления. All right. All right. You find out there was more of her? Хорошо. Хорошо. Вы обнаружили, что она на самом деле больше? Audience: Yeah. Аудитория: Ага. Hm? Got two hands and legs. А? У нее две руки и две ноги. Now, notice that he has two hands too and he's got a head and he's got a hat and he's got feet and shoes – everything. Now, we want the whole thing held still, see? And the whole thing kept from going away. You understand? We don't want – we don't want him standing there keeping from going away going like this or something like that. Так вот, заметьте, что у него тоже две руки, и у него есть голова, у него есть шляпа, у него есть ноги и ботинки – полный набор. Так вот, мы хотим, чтобы все это удерживалось в неподвижности, понимаете? И все это удерживалось от удаления. Вы понимаете? Мы не хотим... мы не хотим, чтобы он стоял и удерживался от удаления таким вот образом или как-то в этом роде. Now, let's impose your will upon this situation. Look at him. Hold him still and keep him from going away. Так вот, давайте в этой ситуации задействуем вашу волю. Посмотрите на него. Удержите его в неподвижности и удержите его от удаления. You're making it? У вас это получается? Audience: Yeah. Аудитория: Ага. Did you discover there was still a little part that wasn't quite under control? Вы обнаружили, что оставалась какая-то маленькая частичка, которая не вполне поддавалась контролю? Audience: No. Аудитория: Нет. No? Some of you did? Нет? Некоторые из вас ее обнаружили? Audience: Yeah. Аудитория: Ага. All right. Хорошо. Okay. All right. That's fine. That's fine. Now, look at her. Look at her. We want you to do this to all of her now. Now, you look at her – now you hold her still and keep her from going away. Ладно. Хорошо. Отлично. Отлично. Теперь посмотрите на нее. Посмотрите на нее. Мы хотим, чтобы вы сделали это со всей ней. Сейчас вы посмотрите на нее... сейчас вы удержите ее в неподвижности и удержите ее от удаления. All right. How's that? Хорошо. Ну как? Audience: Fine. Аудитория: Нормально. You doing pretty good now, huh? У вас сейчас получается довольно неплохо, а? Audience: Yeah. Аудитория: Ага. You doing pretty good, huh? Well, that's pretty good. I want a seminar – two seminar leaders up on this side and two seminar leaders up on this side. Front and center. Chop-chop. Good. Attaboy. Each one of you grab each end of that table and very carefully, steadying the dummy the while, turn him around. Easy. All the way around. У вас получается довольно неплохо, а? Что ж, это довольно неплохо. Я хочу, чтобы ведущий... два ведущих семинара вышли и встали с этой стороны и два ведущих семинара – с этой стороны. Вперед. Раз-два. Хорошо. Молодцы. Сейчас каждый из вас возьмется за один конец стола и очень осторожно, придерживая манекен, развернет его кругом. Плавно. На 180 градусов. Okay. Thank you boys. Thank you. All right now, all right now. Did that disturbance bother you? Хорошо. Спасибо, ребята. Спасибо. Ну хорошо, хорошо. Это перемещение обеспокоило вас? Audience: No. Аудитория: Нет. Oh, it did, huh? Well, we'll run it out. Что, да? Ну, мы пройдем и устраним это. Okay. Ладно. Now, here she is and here he is. Same process. Look at her. Итак, вот она и вот он. Тот же самый процесс. Посмотрите на нее. Now, you hold her still and keep her from going away. Теперь вы удержите ее в неподвижности и удержите ее от удаления. All right.Allright.That'salittle different, isn't it? Хорошо. Хорошо. Это немного отличается, не так ли? All right. Now, look at him. Look at him now. Look at him. Now, you hold him still and keep him from going away. Хорошо. Теперь посмотрите на него. Теперь посмотрите на него. Посмотрите на него. Теперь вы удержите его в неподвижности и удержите его от удаления. All right. How's that? Хорошо. Ну как? Audience: Fine. Аудитория: Хорошо. Little different, isn't it? Это немного отличается, да? Audience: Yeah. Аудитория: Ага. All right. Хорошо. Now, I want you to do it with strength, force, power. I want you to be doing it, you understand? You got that? You do it. Don't depend on any other force or automaticity to do it. Just check yourself over and make sure you're doing it. Not some machine you've got or something. Так вот, я хочу, чтобы вы использовали силу, мощь. Я хочу, чтобы вы делали это, понимаете? Это ясно? Именно вы делаете это. Вы не полагаетесь на то, что это будет делать какая-то другая сила или автоматизм. Просто проверьте и убедитесь, что это делаете вы. А не какая-то из ваших машин или что-то в этом роде. Look at her, hold her still and keep her from going away. Посмотритенанее,удержитееев неподвижности и удержите ее от удаления. All right. How's that, huh? Хорошо. Ну как? Audience: Okay. Yeah. Аудитория: Ага, хорошо. That's pretty good, huh? Получается довольно неплохо, а? Audience: Yeah. Аудитория: Ага. You're getting real sharp at it? Вы становитесь весьма ловкими в этом деле? Audience: Yeah. Аудитория: Ага. Huh? All right. Now, look at him. Да? Хорошо. Теперь посмотрите на него. All right. Now, you hold him still and keep him from going away. Хорошо.Теперьвыудержитеегов неподвижности и удержите его от удаления. All right. How are you doing on that now, huh? Хорошо. Как у вас сейчас получается, а? Audience: Okay. Аудитория: Хорошо. You getting better at it? У вас это получается лучше? Audience: Yeah. Аудитория: Ага. Much better? Гораздо лучше? Audience: Yeah. Аудитория: Ага. All right. Хорошо. Now, look at her. Теперь посмотрите на нее. Now, you hold her still and keep her from going away. Теперь вы удержите ее в неподвижности и удержите ее от удаления. All right. How's that? Hm? Хорошо. Ну как? А? Audience: Okay. Аудитория: Хорошо. You're getting sharp at this now, huh? Теперь вы становитесь ловкими в этом деле, а? Audience: Yeah. Аудитория: Ага. You're getting sharper? You people toward the back having a better time of it, too? Huh? All right. Вы становитесь более ловкими? У тех, кто сидит на задних рядах, тоже получается лучше? Да? Хорошо. Now, I don't care how much force and power you use, I'd like to see you use some for a change, you know? Roooof! Так вот, меня не волнует, сколько силы и мощи вы будете использовать; используйте их ради разнообразия, понимаете? Рруууууф! Look at him. Got him? Посмотрите на него. Нашли его? Audience: Yeah. Аудитория: Ага. Well, look at him. Ну, посмотрите на него. Hold him still and keep him from going away. Удержите его в неподвижности и удержите его от удаления. All right. How's that? Хорошо. Ну как? Audience: Fine. Okay. Аудитория: Хорошо. Нормально. All right. Am I going too slow for you? Хорошо. Я подаю вам команды слишком медленно? Audience: No. Аудитория: Нет. Going too fast? Слишком быстро? Audience: No. Аудитория: Нет. All right. Хорошо. Now, look at her. Look at her. She there? Теперь посмотрите на нее. Посмотрите на нее. Она здесь? Audience: Yes. Аудитория: Да. Okay. Note the fact that she does have appendages, appurtenances and other things. All right. Хорошо. Обратите внимание на тот факт, что у нее есть конечности, отростки и прочие причиндалы. Хорошо. You're doing it now, aren't you? Вы сейчас это делаете, так ведь? Audience: Yeah. Аудитория: Ага. You're holding her still, aren't you? Вы удерживаете ее в неподвижности, так ведь? Audience: Yeah. Аудитория: Ага. All right. Now, you hold her still and keep her from going away. Хорошо.Теперьвыудержитееев неподвижности и удержите ее от удаления. They ought to be getting pretty doggone still by this time. All right. All right. All right. К этому времени они уже должны быть довольно-таки неподвижными. Хорошо. Хорошо. Хорошо. Look at him. Look at him. Got him? Посмотрите на него. Посмотрите на него. Нашли его? Audience: Yeah. Аудитория: Ага. Is he there? Он здесь? Audience: Yeah. Аудитория: Ага. He is there? Он здесь? Audience: Yeah. Аудитория: Ага. All right. Now, you hold him still and keep him from going away. Хорошо.Теперьвыудержитеегов неподвижности и удержите его от удаления. All right. How's that? Хорошо. Ну как? Audience: Fine. Аудитория: Нормально. All right. Look at her. Хорошо. Посмотрите на нее. Audience: Okay. Okay. Аудитория: Да. Да. All right. Now, you hold her still and keep her from going away. Хорошо.Теперьвыудержитееев неподвижности и удержите ее от удаления. Got that? Получилось? Audience: Yeah. Аудитория: Ага. You do it? Вы это сделали? Audience: Yeah. Аудитория: Ага. All right. That's fine. That's fine. Now, look at him. Got him? Хорошо.Прекрасно.Прекрасно.Теперь посмотрите на него. Нашли его? Audience: Yeah. Аудитория: Ага. Is he there? Он здесь? Audience: Yeah. Аудитория: Ага. Does he exist? Он существует? Audience: Yeah. Аудитория: Ага. What's the date? Какое сегодня число? Audience: 1956. Аудитория: 1956-й. All right. Look at him. What's the date? Хорошо. Посмотрите на него. Какое сегодня число? Audience: September 2nd, 1956. Аудитория: 2 сентября 1956 года. All right. Now, hold him still and keep him from going away. Хорошо.Теперьудержитеегов неподвижности и удержите его от удаления. All right. Is that a better win? Хорошо. Вы добились еще большего успеха? Audience: Yeah. Аудитория: Ага. Huh? It isn't taking you quite so long to do it now, is it? Да?Сейчасэто занимает увасменьше времени, правда? Audience: No. Аудитория: Правда. Is that right? All right. Look at her. Это так? Хорошо. Посмотрите на нее. Audience: Okay. Аудитория: Хорошо. All right. Got her there? Хорошо. Нашли ее там? Audience: Yeah. Аудитория: Ага. Got her real good? По-настоящему нашли? Audience: Yeah. Аудитория: Ага. What's the date? Какое сегодня число? Audience: September 2nd, 1956. Аудитория: 2 сентября 1956 года. All right. Look at her. Where is she? Хорошо. Посмотрите на нее. Где она? Audience: Right there. Аудитория: Прямо здесь. All right. Хорошо. What's the date? Какое сегодня число? Audience: September 2nd, 1956. Аудитория: 2 сентября 1956 года. All right. That's fine. Now, you hold her still and keep her from going away. Хорошо. Прекрасно. Теперь вы удержите ее в неподвижности и удержите ее от удаления. Audience: Okay. Аудитория: Хорошо. All right. How's that? Отлично. Ну как? Audience: Fine. Аудитория: Нормально. Good. How about you in the back there? Отлично. Как насчет тех, кто сидит на задних рядах? Audience: Fine. Аудитория: Нормально. Making okay, huh? Получается нормально, а? Audience: Yeah. Аудитория: Ага. All right. Now, look at him. Хорошо. Теперь посмотрите на него. Audience: Okay. Аудитория: Ладно. Good. Now, you hold him still and keep him from going away. Хорошо.Теперьвыудержитеегов неподвижности и удержите его от удаления. All right. How's that? Хорошо. Ну как? Audience: Fine. Аудитория: Нормально. Better, huh? Лучше, да? Audience: Yeah. Аудитория: Ага. Better, huh? This thing getting flat? Лучше, да? Эта штука сглаживается? Audience: Yes. Аудитория: Да. Process getting flat now? Этот процесс сейчас сглаживается? Audience: Yes. Аудитория: Да. Huh? А? Audience: Yeah. Аудитория: Ага. Well good. That's good. Ну хорошо. Это хорошо. Look at her. Посмотрите на нее. Audience: Okay. Аудитория: Ладно. All right. Look at her real good.Is she there? Хорошо.Посмотритенанееочень внимательно. Она здесь? Audience: Yeah. Аудитория: Ага. What's the date? Какое сегодня число? Audience: September the 2nd, 1956. Аудитория: 2 сентября 1956 года. Well, what do you know? We're really getting it now. Ктобымогподумать?Сейчасунас действительно получается. Now, you hold her still and keep her from going away. Теперь вы удержите ее в неподвижности и удержите ее от удаления. All right. How's that? Хорошо. Ну как? Audience: Fine. Аудитория: Нормально. Hm? You mean you – how are you doing now really? You're doing much better on this? Да? Вы хотите сказать, что вы... Правда, как у вас сейчас дела? У вас сейчас дела идут гораздо лучше? Audience: Yeah. Okay. Аудитория: Ага. Да. Does this have some semblance of kind of flattening a little bit? Похоже на то, что этот процесс в какой-то степени сглаживается? Audience: Oh, yeah. Аудитория: О, да. You can do it better than you did? Вы можете делать это лучше, чем раньше? Audience: Yeah. Аудитория: Ага. Well, I got another little process I want to run in, but how about me running this just a couple of more times and then we knock off this particular process, okay? Ну, у меня есть еще один небольшой процесс, который я хотел бы вам провести, но как вы посмотрите на то, что я дам вам эти команды еще пару раз, а потом мы прекратим данный процесс, а? Audience: Yeah. Okay. Аудитория: Ага, ладно. All right. Look at him. Хорошо. Посмотрите на него. Audience: All right. Okay. Аудитория: Да. Хорошо. All right. You hold him still and keep him from going away. Хорошо. Вы удержите его в неподвижности и удержите его от удаления. All right. How's that? Хорошо. Ну как? Audience: Fine. Аудитория: Нормально. Good. Good. Хорошо. Хорошо. Now, look at her – this is the last command now – last command. All right. Теперь посмотрите на нее... это последняя команда... последняя команда. Хорошо. Look at her now and you hold her still and keep her from going away. Посмотрите на нее, и вы удержите ее в неподвижности и удержите ее от удаления. All right. How is that? Hm? Хорошо. Ну как? А? Audience: Fine. Аудитория: Хорошо. Anybody in terrible condition? Кто-то находится в ужасном состоянии? Audience: No. Аудитория: Нет. Aw, shucks! О, черт! Did you get much better at it? У вас стало получаться гораздо лучше? Audience: Yeah. No. Аудитория: Ага. Нет. No? Somebody say no back there? Was there anybody around that couldn't do it at all? Was there anybody around that didn't really see anything difficult in it because it was just standing there anyhow? Нет? Кто-то на задних рядах сказал «нет»? Был ли кто-то, кто вообще не мог это делать? Был ли кто-то, кому казалось, что это делать совсем не трудно, потому что эти штуки все равно стоят перед нами? Audience: No. Аудитория: Нет. All right. Хорошо. How about just leveling this whole thing off with a little bit of spotting, huh? Как вы смотрите на то, чтобы взять и стабилизировать все это, используя небольшой процесс по нахождению, а? Audience: Okay. Аудитория: Хорошо. Want to do some spotting? Хотите пройти процесс по нахождению? Audience: Yes. Аудитория: Да. All right. Well now, what I'm going to do is point out the sides and the walls and the things and stuff in the room and you're going to spot them, okay? Отлично. Так вот, я буду указывать на различные части этой комнаты, на стены и так далее, а вы будете их находить, хорошо? Audience: Okay. Аудитория: Хорошо. And every time you do you tell me okay, all right? И каждый раз после того как вы их найдете, говорите мне «хорошо», ладно? Audience: Okay. Аудитория: Хорошо. All right. And then I, dutifully, because I have heard you, will acknowledge your communication, okay? Хорошо. А потом я послушно... поскольку я вас услышал, я буду давать подтверждение вашему общению, ладно? Audience: Yes. Аудитория: Да. All right. Хорошо. Find the floor. Найдите пол. Good. Good. Find the wall on your right. Хорошо. Хорошо. Найдите стену справа от себя. Audience: Okay. Аудитория: Да. Good. Find the wall on your left. Хорошо. Найдите стену слева от себя. Audience: Okay. Аудитория: Да. Good. Did you do that? Хорошо. Вы это сделали? Audience: Yes. Аудитория: Да. Good. Find the ceiling. Хорошо. Найдите потолок. Audience: Okay. Аудитория: Да. Good. Find the front of the room. Хорошо. Найдите переднюю часть комнаты. Audience: Okay. Аудитория: Да. Good. Find the back of the room. Хорошо. Найдите заднюю часть комнаты. Audience: Okay. Аудитория: Да. Good. All right. Хорошо. Отлично. Now, how're you doing? Does that make you feel a little better? Как у вас дела? Вы чувствуете себя немного лучше? Audience: All right. Аудитория: Все в порядке. All right. Хорошо. Well, you seem to have that one pretty Ну, на самом деле похоже, что этот процесс у flat as a matter of fact. I don't think there's even any reason to give you warning of end of process on it. Is there any particular...? You doing all right? Huh? вас полностью сглажен. Я даже не думаю, что нужно давать вам предупреждение об окончании процесса. Есть ли какая-то конкретная?.. У вас дела нормально? А? Audience: Yeah. Аудитория: Ага. You doing all right. Will you mind if I change that process a little bit? У вас дела нормально. Вы будете возражать, если я немного изменю этот процесс? Audience: No. Аудитория: Нет. All right. Хорошо. Now, we're going to run a little process on you whereby I'm going to ask you to put the objects in place which I call out to you, okay? Так вот, мы проведем с вами небольшой процесс: я буду просить вас помещать различные предметы там, где я вам скажу, хорошо? Audience: Okay. Аудитория: Хорошо. You sound a little doubtful. Now, you understand the auditing command will be to «put a floor down there,» for instance, and then you see if you can put a floor down there, you got it? Ваш ответ звучит немного неуверенно. Так вот, вы понимаете, команда одитинга будет, к примеру, такой: «Поместите пол вот здесь, внизу» – и вам надо будет попытаться поместить там пол, ясно? Audience: Okay. Аудитория: Хорошо. And «put a right-hand wall over there» and you do that, okay? А потом я скажу: «Поместите правую стену вон там» – и вы это сделаете, хорошо? Audience: Okay. Аудитория: Хорошо. Is this all right with you? Вы согласны сделать это? Audience: Yeah. Аудитория: Ага. Do you like the phrasing in the auditing command? Вамнравитсяформулировкакоманды одитинга? Audience: Yeah. Аудитория: Ага. All right. Doesn't do any good if you were to say no, I mean I'm the auditor. Хорошо. Конечно, если бы вы сказали «нет», вам бы это не помогло... All right. Хорошо. You put a floor down there. Вы поместите пол вот здесь, внизу. Audience: Okay. Аудитория: Да. Did you? Сделали это? Audience: Yes. Аудитория: Да. Well, all right. Ну хорошо. Now, you put a right-hand wall over there. Теперь вы поместите правую стену вон там. Audience: Okay. Аудитория: Да. All right. Did you? Отлично. Сделали это? Audience: Yeah. Аудитория: Ага. Well good. Now, you put a left-hand wall over there. Ну, хорошо. Теперь вы поместите левую стену вон там. Audience: Okay. Аудитория: Да. All right. Отлично. Did you? Сделали это? Audience: Yes. Аудитория: Да. Well, all right. Ну, отлично. Now, you put a ceiling up there. Теперь вы поместите потолок вон там, вверху. Audience: Okay. Аудитория: Да. All right. Did you? Отлично. Сделали это? Audience: Yes. Аудитория: Да. Well good. All right. You put a front on the room. Ну, хорошо. Отлично. Вы поместите переднюю часть комнаты в этой комнате. Audience: Okay. Аудитория: Да. All right. Did you? Отлично. Сделали это? Audience: Yes. Аудитория: Да. Well, all right. Now, you put a back on the room. Ну, отлично. Теперь вы поместите заднюю часть комнаты в этой комнате. Audience: Okay. Аудитория: Да. All right. Did you? Отлично. Сделали это? Audience: Yes. Аудитория: Да. Well, all right. Ну, отлично. Now good. You put a chair under you. Хорошо. Вы поместите стул под собой. Audience: Okay. Аудитория: Да. All right. Let's try that again. Now, you put a chair under you. Отлично. Давайте попробуем еще раз. Вы поместите стул под собой. Audience: Okay. Аудитория: Да. All right. Did you? Отлично. Сделали это? Audience: Yes. Аудитория: Да. Well, all right. Ну хорошо. Now, you put a floor under the chair. Теперь вы поместите пол под стулом. Audience: Okay. Аудитория: Да. All right. Did you? Отлично. Сделали это? Audience: Yes. Аудитория: Да. Well, okay. All right. Ну, хорошо. Отлично. Now, you put an Earth under the floor. Теперь вы поместите Землю под полом. Audience: Okay. Аудитория: Да. All right. Did you? Отлично. Сделали это? Audience: Yes. Аудитория: Да. Well, all right. Ну, отлично. Now,youputaMESTuniverse underneath the Earth, okay? Теперь вы поместите МЭСТ-вселенную под Землей, хорошо? Audience: Okay. Аудитория: Хорошо. All right. Did you? Отлично. Сделали это? Audience: Yes. Аудитория: Да. Well, okay. Ну, хорошо. Now, let's get back to the chair and you put a chair under you. Теперьдавайтевернемсякстулу.Вы поместите стул под собой. Audience: Okay. Аудитория: Да. All right. Did you? Отлично. Сделали это? Audience: Yes. Аудитория: Да. Well okay. Is there something for it to sit on? Ну, хорошо. У него есть на чем стоять? Audience: Yes. Аудитория: Да. Well, all right. Now, you just make sure and you put something there for it to sit on. Ну, отлично. Теперь, просто на всякий случай, вы поместите там что-то, на чем он может стоять. Audience: Okay. Аудитория: Да. All right. Good. Отлично. Хорошо. Now, you put a wall on your right. Теперь вы поместите стену справа от себя. Audience: Okay. Аудитория: Да. All right. Did you? Отлично. Сделали это? Audience: Yes. Аудитория: Да. Well, okay. Now, you put a wall on your left. Ну, хорошо. Теперь вы поместите стену слева от себя. Audience: All right. Аудитория: Ладно. Did you? Сделали это? Audience: Yes. Аудитория: Да. Well, all right. Now good. You put a front on the room. Ну, отлично. Хорошо. Вы поместите переднюю часть комнаты в этой комнате. Audience: Okay. Аудитория: Да. All right. Now did you? Отлично. Вы сделали это? Audience: Yes. Аудитория: Да. Well, okay. Now, you put a back on the room. Ну хорошо. Теперь вы поместите заднюю часть комнаты в этой комнате. Audience: Okay. Аудитория: Да. All right. Did you? Отлично. Сделали это? Audience: Yes. Аудитория: Да. Well okay. Now, you put a floor under you. Ну хорошо. Теперь вы поместите пол под собой. Audience: All right. Okay. Аудитория: Ладно. Хорошо. All right. Now did you? Отлично. Вы сделали это? Audience: Yes. Аудитория: Да. Well okay. Now, you put a ceiling over you. Ну хорошо. Теперь вы поместите потолок над собой. Audience: Okay. Аудитория: Да. All right. Did you? Отлично. Сделали это? Audience: Yes. Аудитория: Да. Well, okay. Now, you put a front on the room. Ну хорошо. Теперь вы поместите переднюю часть комнаты в этой комнате. Audience: Okay. Аудитория: Да. All right. Now, did you? Отлично. Вы сделали это? Audience: Yes. Аудитория: Да. Well, all right. Ну отлично. Now, you put that dummy there. Теперь вы поместите здесь этот манекен. Audience: Okay. Аудитория: Да. All right. Now, did you? Отлично. Вы сделали это? Audience: Yes. Аудитория: Да. Well, okay. Now, you put that dummy there on... Ну хорошо. Теперь вы поместите здесь этот манекен на... Audience: Okay. Аудитория: Да. All right. Did you? Отлично. Сделали это? Audience: Yes. Аудитория: Да. Well, okay. Now, you put a floor under you. Ну хорошо. Теперь вы поместите пол под собой. Audience: Okay. Аудитория: Да. All right. Let's do it better. You put a floor under you. Отлично. Давайте сделаем это еще лучше. Вы поместите пол под собой. Audience: Okay. Аудитория: Да. All right. Now, you do better than that. Отлично. Теперь сделайте это еще лучше. You put a floor under you. Вы поместите пол под собой. Audience: Okay. Аудитория: Да. All right. Now, did you do that? Отлично. Вы сделали это? Audience: Yes. Аудитория: Да. Well, okay. Now, you put a wall on your right. Ну хорошо. Теперь вы поместите стену справа от себя. Audience: Okay. Аудитория: Да. All right. Now, did you? Отлично. Вы сделали это? Audience: Yes. Аудитория: Да. Well, okay. Now, you put a wall on your right. Ну хорошо. Теперь вы поместите стену справа от себя. Audience: Okay. Аудитория: Да. All right. Now, did you? Отлично. Вы сделали это? Audience: Yes. Аудитория: Да. Well, okay. Now, you put a wall on your right. Ну хорошо. Теперь вы поместите стену справа от себя. Audience: Okay. Аудитория: Да. All right. Now, did you? Отлично. Вы сделали это? Audience: Yes. Аудитория: Да. Well, okay. Now, you put a wall on your right. Ну хорошо. Теперь вы поместите стену справа от себя. Audience: Okay. Аудитория: Да. All right. Now did you? Отлично. Вы сделали это? Audience: Yes. Аудитория: Да. Well, okay. Now, you put a wall on your left. Ну хорошо. Теперь вы поместите стену слева о себя. Audience: Okay. Аудитория: Да. All right. Now did you? Отлично. Вы сделали это? Audience: Yes. Аудитория: Да. Well, okay. Now, you put a wall on your left. Ну хорошо. Теперь вы поместите стену слева от себя. Audience: Okay. Аудитория: Да. All right. Now, did you? Отлично. Вы сделали это? Audience: Yes. Аудитория: Да. All right. Now, you put a wall on your left. Отлично. Теперь вы поместите стену слева от себя. Audience: Okay. Аудитория: Да. All right. Now, did you? Отлично. Вы сделали это? Audience: Yes. Аудитория: Да. All right. Okay. Now, you put a back on the room. Отлично.Хорошо.Теперьвыпоместите заднюю часть комнаты в этой комнате. Audience: Okay. Аудитория: Да. All right. Now, did you? Отлично. Вы сделали это? Audience: Yes. Аудитория: Да. Well, okay. Now, you put a back on the room. Ну хорошо. Теперь вы поместите заднюю часть комнаты в этой комнате. Audience: Okay. Аудитория: Да. All right. Now, did you? Отлично. Вы сделали это? Audience: Yes. Аудитория: Да. Well, okay. Now, you put a back on the room. Ну хорошо. Теперь вы поместите заднюю часть комнаты в этой комнате. Audience: Okay. Аудитория: Да. All right. Now, did you? Отлично. Вы сделали это? Audience: Yes. Аудитория: Да. Well, okay. Now, you put a front on the room. Ну хорошо. Теперь вы поместите переднюю часть комнаты в этой комнате. Audience: Okay. Аудитория: Да. All right. Now, did you? Отлично. Вы сделали это? Audience: Yes. Аудитория: Да. Well, okay. Now, you put a front on the room. Ну хорошо. Теперь вы поместите переднюю часть комнаты в этой комнате. Audience: Okay. Аудитория: Да. All right. Now, did you? Отлично. Вы сделали это? Audience: Yes. Аудитория: Да. All right. Now, you put an audience here. Отлично.Теперьвыпоместитездесь аудиторию. Audience: Okay. Аудитория: Да. Now, did you? Вы сделали это? Audience: Yes. Аудитория: Да. Well, okay. Now, you put an audience here. Нухорошо.Теперьвыпоместитездесь аудиторию. Audience: Okay. Аудитория: Да. All right. Now, did you? Отлично. Вы сделали это? Audience: Yes. Аудитория: Да. Well, okay. Now, you put me up here. Ну хорошо. Теперь вы поместите меня вот здесь. Audience: Okay. Аудитория: Да. All right. Now, did you? Отлично. Вы сделали это? Audience: Yes. Аудитория: Да. Well, okay. Now, you put me up here. Ну хорошо. Теперь вы поместите меня вот здесь. Audience: Okay. Аудитория: Да. All right. Now, did you? Отлично. Вы сделали это? Audience: Yes. Аудитория: Да. Well, that's okay. Now, you put an audience here. Ну,хорошо.Теперьвыпоместитездесь аудиторию. Audience: Okay. Аудитория: Да. Now, did you? Вы сделали это? Audience: Yes. Аудитория: Да. Well, okay. Now, you create a congress. Ну хорошо. Теперь вы создайте конгресс. Audience: Okay. Аудитория: Да. Now, did you? Вы сделали это? Audience: Yes. Аудитория: Да. All right. Now, you create a congress. Отлично. Теперь вы создайте конгресс. Audience: Okay. Аудитория: Да. Now, did you? Вы сделали это? Audience: Yes. Аудитория: Да. Well, all right. Now, you create a congress. Ну, отлично. Теперь вы создайте конгресс. Audience: Okay. Аудитория: Да. All right. Now, did you? Отлично. Вы сделали это? Audience: Yes. Аудитория: Да. That's all right. Now, you create a congress. Отлично. Теперь вы создайте конгресс. Audience: Okay. Аудитория: Да. Now, did you? Вы сделали это? Audience: Yes. Аудитория: Да. Well, that's okay. Now, you create an organization. Это хорошо. Теперь вы создайте организацию. Audience: Okay. Аудитория: Да. All right. Now, did you? Отлично. Вы сделали это? Audience: Yes. Аудитория: Да. Well, that's okay. Now, you create an organization. Это хорошо. Теперь вы создайте организацию. Audience: Okay. Аудитория: Да. All right. Now, did you? Отлично. Вы сделали это? Audience: Yes. Аудитория: Да. Well, that's okay. Now, you create an organization. Это хорошо. Теперь вы создайте организацию. Audience: Okay. Аудитория: Да. All right. Now, did you? Отлично. Вы сделали это? Audience: Yes. Аудитория: Да. Well, that's okay. Now, you create an audience. Это хорошо. Теперь вы создайте аудиторию. Audience: Okay. Аудитория: Да. Now, did you? Вы сделали это? Audience: Yes. Аудитория: Да. That's okay. Now, you put me up here. Это хорошо. Теперь вы поместите меня вот здесь. Audience: Okay. Аудитория: Да. All right. Now, did you? Отлично. Вы сделали это? Audience: Yes. Аудитория: Да. Well, okay. Now, you put a whole room here. Ну хорошо. Теперь вы поместите всю комнату здесь. Audience: Okay. Аудитория: Да. All right. Now, did you? Отлично. Вы сделали это? Audience: Yes. Аудитория: Да. Well, okay. Ну хорошо. How do you feel? Как вы себя чувствуете? Audience: Fine. Аудитория: Хорошо. How you doing? Как у вас дела? Audience: Fine. Аудитория: Хорошо. Where are you? Где вы? Audience: Here. Аудитория: Здесь. What's the date? Какое сегодня число? Audience: September the 2nd, 1956. Аудитория: 2 сентября 1956 года. Brother,does that sound different than it did! Ого, это звучит совсем иначе, чем раньше! Good. I'll now give you the Chinese custom. Хорошо. Теперь я покажу вам один китайский обычай. Good audience. Хорошая аудитория. Good preclears – good preclears. Хорошие преклиры... хорошие преклиры. Good congress. Хороший конгресс. Thank you. Спасибо. Supposing – you intimated earlier that you were going to make me work tonight. Если... вы раньше намекнули, что собираетесь заставить меня работать сегодня вечером. Audience: Yes. Аудитория: Да. All right. If you're going to do that, however, I think that we ought to take till 7:00 o'clock, don't you? Отлично. Однако если вы собираетесь так поступить, по-моему, нам стоит сделать перерыв до 7 вечера, вы согласны? Audience: Yes. Аудитория: Да. Huh? А? Well you know, this time I might even be on time. Ну, знаете, на этот раз я, возможно, даже буду вовремя.